2026-07-24 00:35 UTC
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@paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange 2026-07-24 03:20
@RickiTarr@beige.party they won't admit it but what they really want is for history/reality to match some fantasy poem they like.
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@mxchara@seattle.pink 2026-07-24 04:32
@RickiTarr@beige.party well this IS the big one in a sense because even if all those legends about Odysseus were in fact legendary, there still actually was a Troy and a Trojan War and some fragmentary evidence for the existence of at least a few of the heroes named. And as for the Odyssey at least all the places named are real. To call it "fantasy" is, I think, incorrect. Fantasy is a relatively recent invention and it's not proper to apply that word to literary forms of an utterly different nature. Sticking "fantasy" on a work of incredibly durable oral tradition? For hundreds of years before it was formally committed to writing? That's no fantasy.
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@chessert@mastodon.online 2026-07-24 00:37
@RickiTarr@beige.party The cultural myth of white supremacy must be defended, at all costs! 🙄 I'm so grateful for my upbringing, where those beliefs were on the outer fringes of my awareness.
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@rlstone4dems@mastodon.social 2026-07-24 00:38
@RickiTarr@beige.party LOL, @RickiTarr@beige.party . What in "fantasy" don't they understand....?
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@parslii@mountains.social 2026-07-24 00:40
@RickiTarr@beige.party historically accurate cyclops
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@Perrin42@mastodon.social 2026-07-24 00:47
@RickiTarr@beige.party You mean there never really was a man from Nantucket?
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@franksting@theblower.au 2026-07-24 03:00
@RickiTarr@beige.party if you hear a blowhard using terms like “foundations of western civilisation” to talk about Ancient Greek Literature, they of course don’t mean “eastern mediteranean civilisation including greeks, asians and africans”, they mean “white people”
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@jaypeach53@calckeymusic.social 2026-07-24 01:02
@RickiTarr@beige.party You might want to add: mentally defective, drug addict, but that would qualify almost all of MAGA. Third grade dropouts all.
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@penpencilbrush@mstdn.social 2026-07-24 01:18
@RickiTarr@beige.party Some people need to read more. #ReadMore #Books
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@glitterbean@wehavecookies.social 2026-07-24 01:18
@RickiTarr@beige.party Most grown ass people are grown with the wrong understanding of what real poetry even is. I say that as a grown ass person who is terrible at adult-ing. Living among them is even worse.
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@em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social 2026-07-24 01:20
@RickiTarr@beige.party Yeah, a poem that literally talks about “midnight violet” sheep, cyclops and other mythical magical creatures 🤣 Again, I have to add , I had family members (who I never met personally) who were known to repeat this story as an “epic tale” 😹. So yeah, it’s not “historical” but “mythical”. (Also remember “legends are lessons that “ring” of truth” or something like that, where actual events were exaggerated by retelling them to the point of myth). It still makes me laugh 🤣
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@James@beige.party 2026-07-24 01:23
@RickiTarr@beige.party And ignore all the moral lessons in the story. Odysseus achieved total victory but offended the gods, and was punished for it. What did SpaceX close at today.
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@bruceturner@toad.social 2026-07-24 01:26
@RickiTarr@beige.party So either Kubla Khan did or did not in Xanadu a stately pleasure dome decree. Which is it!?
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@Canuckduff@mas.to 2026-07-24 01:29
@RickiTarr@beige.party Only when a non-White person is cast in major role, apparently.
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@HamonWry@mastodon.world 2026-07-24 01:30
@RickiTarr@beige.party I know, right? Although I’d argue that Darth Vader’s uniform is totally wrong according to historical documents.
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@timo21@mastodon.sdf.org 2026-07-24 02:23
@RickiTarr@beige.party The white supremacists 150 years ago did not consider swarthy Mediterranean peoples white. So this whole argument is both baffling and humorous.
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@darkwolf@hear-me.social 2026-07-24 02:54
@RickiTarr@beige.party Next thing HollyWeird is gonna tell us is that Jesus didn't have dishwater blonde hair and blue eyes. Woke.
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@intothewestaway@mastodonapp.uk 2026-07-24 02:57
@RickiTarr@beige.party Right?
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@ellestad@sfba.social 2026-07-24 02:57
@RickiTarr@beige.party I know, The Bible, who can take that shit seriously. I mean, no one wrote it down for how long? And it was translated how many times? And people still think it is historically accurate!?
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@ColesStreetPothole@weatherishappening.network 2026-07-24 03:17
@RickiTarr@beige.party It's got a fucking cyclops in it.
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@michaelgemar@cosocial.ca 2026-07-24 03:29
@RickiTarr@beige.party It’s an outrage that the entire cast didn’t speak Ancient Greek.
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@farah@beige.party 2026-07-24 03:36
@RickiTarr@beige.party Look they wanted mermaids to be “scientifically” accurate, because casting a qualified black girl hurt their feels. I don’t trust any opinions or judgments coming from these people. Fuck them; they can die angry!
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@TransitBiker@urbanists.social 2026-07-24 03:41
@RickiTarr@beige.party can we get an historically accurate Super Mario Bros?
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@fullywoolly@mastodon.social 2026-07-24 05:26
@RickiTarr@beige.party wait ... Are you implying Beowulf didn't happen? 🤯
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@jpetazzo@hachyderm.io 2026-07-24 05:41
@RickiTarr@beige.party let me guess, it's the same people who had issues with "unrealistic" things in Wonderwoman? 😬
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@MelissaBearTrix@gives.hugz.online 2026-07-24 06:05
@RickiTarr@beige.party Are you telling me the three bears aren't real Giggles Hugz & xXx
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@Guillotine_Jones@beige.party 2026-07-24 06:45
@RickiTarr@beige.party I just want EVERYTHING to be historically accurate, Ricki. Bong huts 4 Jesus.
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@klegdixal@social.vivaldi.net 2026-07-24 08:27
@RickiTarr@beige.party if someone sets to make a screen adaptation of a particular translation of an ancient epic based on events that likely actually happened some time in the late Bronze Age it'd be lovely if the end result had something to do with the aforementioned translation. I don't particularly care for historical accuracy in such circumstances but I'd appreciate some consistency in the setting. While i think that casting of Lupita Nyong'o was an inspired choice Nolan made several aesthetic choices that break my immersion and take away any pleasure from watching.
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@arclight@oldbytes.space 2026-07-24 10:14
@RickiTarr@beige.party I'm still waiting for a Biblically-accurate Spiderman.
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@MartyFouts@mastodon.online 2026-07-24 13:16
@RickiTarr@beige.party I blame Schliemann.
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@ricardoharvin@mstdn.social 2026-07-24 13:52
@RickiTarr@beige.party "It's fanfic?" "Always has been." https://mstdn.social/@ricardoharvin/116960248648951288
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@GayDeceiver@mstdn.social 2026-07-24 14:16
@RickiTarr@beige.party I just hope they don't smarten up to the historical person of Jesus being a short Middle Eastern man with brown skin, brown eyes, black hair who most likely spoke Aramaic or Hebrew.
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@beecycling@wandering.shop 2026-07-24 15:07
@RickiTarr@beige.party It makes these idiots sound so backwards. Like colourblind casting has been the normal in the theatre for a long time. In opera basically forever - where if you can sing nobody gives a fuck what colour you are. I grew up with an opera-loving mum, so was quite used to seeing someone who maybe didn't look the way you might expect that character to look playing a part. Nobody minds if they're good, and it's all just a play! Everthing is just a dramatised story in the end.