@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange
2026-07-28 18:22 UTC
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@astronot@mastodon.online 2026-07-28 18:35
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange AI note taking systems are bad at their jobs. They don't reliably transcribe especially with jargon filled and non native english speakers. The summaries do not capture key decisions or social nuances ( or the whole damn point of putting people together to hash things out). Who proposed the decision? Who agreed to it? Who was silent, on mute, or absent when the decision was made? What was the justification? Even "what was the actual decision" (words matter)?
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@ucaccessnow@sfba.social 2026-07-28 18:50
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange Needs to be filed under "Why abled people should care when disabled people bring up issues"... At least at the University of California, for disabled people at UC (whether students, staff, or faculty), there used to be human notetakers for those who had that access need. It was a good work/study job for abled students to be a notetaker. But since disabled people are always seen as a risk and cost "to be managed", the moment that abled decisionmakers could fob it off to Otter .ai, they did. This compromised privacy of disabled people. But people didn't care when it was mostly happening to disabled people... Of course, as soon as the tech was available to have these AI notetakers in online meetings, abled folks began to notice. The cruel irony is that AI corps love using "accessibility" as cover for their work. But if abled decisionmakers cared about accessibility, everything would already be accessible as possible. It's not about accessibility.
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@tracksandtreks@social.lol 2026-07-28 19:21
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange I’d like to see fewer meetings and more asynchronous communication in general, but given a or b, a without a doubt.
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@TeflonTrout@beige.party 2026-07-29 06:06
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange Writing notes means I never have to refer to them again, which is the fastest and most efficient possible outcome
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@miss_rodent@girlcock.club 2026-07-29 05:41
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange If you do not take notes yourself in either of these scenarios, I do not think you understand the purpose or usefulness of taking notes in the first place? What is even the point if you're not going to take them yourself?
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@0xrg@mastodon.social 2026-07-29 05:46
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange I wonder how much worse decision making is going to get at companies because people start questioning whether to speak and be recorded, or not.
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@CaptainMalu@mastodon.social 2026-07-28 19:30
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange I wouldn't really have a problem with being recorded in cases of meetings for documentation purposes. Automatically speech to text engines would be fine, too. But no ai and no third party service for processing. It has to be 100% in-house. I don't know why any company would like to share there internal meetings with another corporation. You can't control what is said in these meetings.
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@DodoTheDev@front-end.social 2026-07-28 18:24
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange Sadly I work at B. But I do understand why people use them. I just dont like giving up my data so that people can make their busy life easier.
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@brass75@twit.social 2026-07-28 18:24
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange How is this even a question?
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@pencilears@mastodon.eternalaugust.com 2026-07-28 18:26
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange ai note takers make mistakes, and, more importantly, taking notes means you are deciding what did and didn't happen. Because if it happened, but there's no record, then it didn't happen. Being the person who took the notes means you're the one who says what got decided. If you're not taking your own notes from every meeting you're in, you're surrendering to whoever did, and I trust Marsha from accounting a thousand times more than I trust any ai.
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@yantor3d@mas.to 2026-07-28 18:27
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange c) there are no meetings that require you to take notes. d) there are no meetings.
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@ehurtley@pdx.social 2026-07-28 18:32
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange I prefer to let speech-to-text dictate, then I go through and summarize key points myself. The thing is, all current transcription thingies see “AI” now. They don’t need to be. Speech-to-text has been “solved” for decades. It doesn’t need GPU-intensive “AI.” My Pentium III in 1999 could do a competent enough job.
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@computersaysno@digitalcourage.social 2026-07-28 18:35
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange I wonder how the result would look on LinkedIn
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@catmisgivings@stranger.social 2026-07-28 19:33
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange my action items won't get into my head if I don't write them down in my own words
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@thomasbeagle@mastodon.nz 2026-07-28 19:34
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange How would I be able to manipulate the content and outcomes of meetings without being able to write the agenda and the minutes?
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@aronowski@furry.engineer 2026-07-28 20:38
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange Primarily depends if the AI note taker is already trained to recognise company-wide and project-wide terminology and can understand the context that employees understand, and if I can be sure it will capture and highlight the important parts, that I myself would have missed when taking manual notes. Then it's the matter of having the model secured, so it doesn't leave the company's infrastructure, and can be constantly trained with new data for improvements. If these can't be satisfied, IMHO there's no point in using it, and manual notes win.
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@TimWardCam@c.im 2026-07-28 21:59
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange (a), obvs. 'Cos most other people will be too lazy to take notes, so your record of what was decided will stand, even if it's not quite exactly what everybody else remembers was said.
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@Crystal_Fish_Caves@mstdn.party 2026-07-28 22:02
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange for several weeks I delighted in seeing the new ai bot added to our chatroom get thumbs down by the monitors to say' agent what bot just said is bogus info gimme a sec to answer your question correctly I am busy smacking the bot with thumbs downs on all its answers to answer you now' and then it was gone. And then it was back new improved and I want to bash it with a crowbar. I mean I have been here for years know everything never got a raise no one offered me the job. #noai
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@Chip_Unicorn@im-in.space 2026-07-28 22:11
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange I take notes to help my memory. If I don't have it in my memory, it doesn't matter what's in the AI -- I won't remember that it exists.
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@alcinnz@floss.social 2026-07-29 06:48
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange You know... I've had some atrocious experiences with meetings. So c: eMail! Though of these options: I'd feel the need to take notes myself either way.
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@osma@mas.to 2026-07-29 08:59
c) AI notetakers are in the meetings, mis-transcribing and mis-attributing at least 20% of the notes, so no one refers to the transcription. No reliable notes exist. @Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange
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@jetsoft@hachyderm.io 2026-07-31 01:00
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange my experience is b but noone ever refers to the notes. I read the transcript sometimes for meetings i missed. So much less time wasted than attending.
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@feisty_lemming@zeroes.ca 2026-07-31 17:45
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange The first time a colleague used AI to summarize a meeting, it made shit up. It said someone had committed to do a particular thing, but it never happened. So that didn’t fill me with confidence. I always take my own notes anyway, and that won’t change. (Interestingly, the colleague was not concerned about the made-up shit. They still thought the meeting summary was very useful.)
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@mlanger@mastodon.world 2026-07-31 17:59
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange @feisty_lemming@zeroes.ca This seems like a no-brainer to me. Why would anyone not want to take their own notes? Taking notes helps you remember and actually think about what went on. I can't imagine succeeding in a position without paying attention at meetings.
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@babble_endanger@freeradical.zone 2026-07-31 18:11
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange I don't bother reading the AI notes. I take notes when something surprises me or I need to remember it. An AI listening passively is either going to write too much or too little because it doesn't know what I need to know
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@Dougfir@m.ai6yr.org 2026-07-31 19:23
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange Just go to work, do my job, never miss a break, and go home on time.
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@paul@misskey.ellidaf.ru 2026-07-31 19:50
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange Я бы предпочел работу, где денег больше платят.🤠
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@farooqkz@mastodon.bsd.cafe 2026-08-01 05:24
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange I want a job without meetings :D
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@fartnuggets@jorts.horse 2026-08-02 15:19
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange taking notes myself is a primary mechanism for how my brain works. Writing shit down gives me enough time to digest what I'm writing, and formulate follow up questions. AI note taking sucks, because it robs me of that opportunity, and at the same time gets basic shit completely wrong.
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@krupo@infosec.exchange 2026-08-02 18:59
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange I take great pleasure in booting the bots. Especially when they're not invited or announced in advance. Infinitely moreso when someone sends an agent instead of joining themselves. Like how antisocial can you be. This one time it was literally a MEET AND GREET call.