@spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works
2026-02-12 18:09 UTC
Replies (40)
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@teft@piefed.social 2026-02-12 18:24
I hope what really gets people to pay attention is how the FBI said they searched that news ladies' moms' ring camera footage even though she didn't have an active subscription.
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@14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 2026-02-12 21:18
the problem with these fucking things is that you can't really opt out. even if you don't buy your own, some neighbours will happily buy and install the big brother to watch you from their porch and there is very little you can do about it. same as you can't really escape the google, even if you don't use single one of their service, there is always the other part to any communication you are having...
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@DaddleDew@lemmy.world 2026-02-12 18:46
It is baffling that people hadn't clued in about this sooner
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@MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2026-02-13 11:53
> "They aren't just tracking lost dogs, they're tracking you and your neighbors," Uh, yeah. You didn't get the news about them sharing with ICE?
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@mlg@lemmy.world 2026-02-12 23:26
My personal choice for security stuff is ubiquiti, but I'm sure someone here can find a super cheap doorbell camera that saves to an SD card and accomplishes the same thing. I'm really glad people didn't just fall over for this ad, and connected the dots on what Amazon is doing
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@BanMe@lemmy.world 2026-02-13 14:14
They've backed off this and ended the partnership, claim Flock never got any footage, which I think is a total lie. They'll re-partner when the heat is off, or just do it silently, Amazon shouldn't be trusted. Explain why to your friends and neighbors.
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@Psythik@lemmy.world 2026-02-13 04:26
I honestly didn't know what they were thinking with that commercial. Why would you proudly advertise that you've built a massive surveillance network, during one of the most-watched yearly televised events too for that matter? Did they seriously believe that there wouldn't be a *major* backlash? I mean I appreciate the blunt honesty in that commercial so I'll give them credit for that.
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@nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-02-13 07:19
just get a Chinese one like tapo so that the Chinese government can spy on you instead
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@rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 2026-02-12 18:29
I chose Reolink. AFAICT it's not leaking anything outside my network and it's fairly inexpensive. Not as cheap as the subsidized Ring brand but hey, at least I own them.
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@Agent641@lemmy.world 2026-02-13 05:31
Imagine spending millions of dollars on an ad that costs your company millions more in lost sales
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@Etterra@discuss.online 2026-02-13 03:59
My only regret is that I can't smash one because was never stupid enough to trust these things to begin with.
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@devedeset@lemmy.zip 2026-02-13 06:36
I put Google cameras on my house years ago out of convenience and this is it, I'm spending the money on a PoE system where my footage stays on my own hardware.
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@AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2026-02-12 18:51
the other day I heard someone make the point that Amazon is just a more successful Palinteer
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@AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 2026-02-12 19:34
For anyone who has a Ring camera, wants to get rid of it, but still wants a doorbell camera for security/convenience reasons, I'll point out that Ecobee has a fairly good rating on Mozilla's [Privacy Not Included](https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/privacynotincluded/ecobee-smart-doorbell-camera/) page where they review products for their privacy. E2EE transmission of video from the camera to your phone when streaming, on-device processing of video feeds, auto-deletes any cloud footage when people uninstall the app (so non-technical users who think uninstalling an app deletes their data will actually get that benefit), only saves clips when actual motion is detected, first line of their privacy policy is "Your personal information and data belong to you", and their subscription is 100% optional. Only real privacy concern is that **if** you choose to integrate yours with Alexa, it might get some data from that, but that's optional. The main downside is just that they only have a wired option for outdoor setups, but they do have an indoor one that doesn't require any kind of hookup directly into wires in your wall. As always though, if you have the technical ability to set something up yourself that runs only on your local network, do it.
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@DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2026-02-13 05:14
my next door neighbor has a camera that seems to look like a ring... I mean I'm not gonna approach their door for no reason to check if it is a ring, but like... if it is a ring... then oh well, NSA is right by my door. And I'm in a deep blue city btw... neighbor is a renter and is Black, so.... yeah... minority working class inadvertantly have a spy camera on their door Front door is like right next to each other... like the camera can see me walking in the the path into my own house, it makes a sound when it detects movement and I heard the sound thing trigger even when walking only on my side of the yard ...And my family are immigrants... so yay, our movements are probably in an ICE database
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@Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2026-02-12 18:43
ten years too late
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@big_slap@lemmy.world 2026-02-12 18:45
the few that do this are the smart ones. I fear the ignorant/dumb wont follow when this story eventually dies
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@minorkeys@lemmy.world 2026-02-13 04:56
Why anyone ever thinks empowering psychopathic companies is ever a good idea is beyond me. They ALWAYS fuck us over. Every damn time.
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@BigTrout75@lemmy.world 2026-02-13 05:11
Cancel prime too
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@matlag@sh.itjust.works 2026-02-13 05:49
The most appalling thing is the advertisers and whoever approved this live in a bubble where people are ok with massive surveillance, and don't imagine people will freak out when they see how Amazon can watch them. At least Meta knows their users hate them but are hostages of their network, that's why Meta buys or crushes competitors before they become too big. I've not seen that since a Ford's VP bragging about how much Ford will know absoltuely everything you do with "your" car (is it really?) and backpedaled live as he realized journalists were horrified. That was a long time ago. Today it's common.
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@BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2026-02-12 21:59
It would be good if they had a way to limit range so it couldn't focus on anything that isn't within 10 ft of the door.
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@Buffy@libretechni.ca 2026-02-13 14:06
WiFi connected cameras were a mistake. Although, if people are going to use these mass surveillance devices, using it to find dogs is great. It needs cat detection too.
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@treesquid@lemmy.world 2026-02-14 22:28
"Amazon says the system is secured against hackers" ...You dumb evil pieces of shit, your employees and malicious government and law enforcement entities are a far greater risk than hackers. "We're spying on everything you do and giving Trump's constitution-ignoring lackeys access, but at least hackers aren't, probably"
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@rauls5@lemmy.zip 2026-02-12 18:39
Switched to Logitech a while back. Uses iCloud encrypted storage.
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@HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2026-02-14 14:50
Because they all connect to the Kremlin via a single washing machine CPU.
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@MehBlah@lemmy.world 2026-02-13 15:22
Why? They finally woke up to the fact they were being spied on and that they pay money for the privilege of doing so..
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@xSikes@feddit.online 2026-02-13 00:37
Why hasn’t everyone done this to their any cloud services door bell?
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@Biohive@lemmy.world 2026-02-13 14:28
Why not?
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@bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2026-02-12 21:47
I think the better question is why they didn't do it sooner
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@wendythedruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-02-13 20:15
I went with industry standard localized cameras that I could rider python on two of my servers at home for. Id love to try to hack up a ring , see if I could extract out what makes it "evil" and leave the rest, to even a relay to another server or something. Things I think about.
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@veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 2026-02-13 16:21
does anyone have a link to the original superbowl ad? Found it: https://youtu.be/hiaIHLwJvPQ?t=1449
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@Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2026-02-13 01:14
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@notsosure@sh.itjust.works 2026-02-13 01:11
Data privacy starts at home. From the onset, I was suspicious of my data in the ring camera or ring cloud; my old mechanical bell rules.
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@mrodri89@lemmy.zip 2026-02-13 15:55
In regards to flock I wonder if there’s any material we can use on our dash or license plate that the cameras cannot see. I think I saw something like that but unsure if it’s effective.
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@Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-02-12 21:01
Will be using Unifi cameras when I get around to installing them in my home.
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@m3t00@lemmy.world 2026-02-13 04:06
duct tape
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@Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 2026-02-13 01:17
Because they're wiretaps. Insane that it took this long for people to understand this.
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@YaksDC@sh.itjust.works 2026-02-12 19:18
I mean it is even a major plot point of Weapons.
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@ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2026-02-12 20:02
I can confirm, people are destroying their cameras. Dozens of them!
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@Buffalox@lemmy.world 2026-02-12 18:38
Question is why they bought a Ring camera in the first place? There is no way they can have been unaware that these gadgets can be accessed from outside. But it was only when the evidence was put right in their face they finally connected the dots? So my answer is quite simple: Because they are stupid, and bought a sleazy product from a known sleazy company, and when they found out it was in fact as sleazy as could be expected, they figured that maybe they didn't want to to be voluntarily surveilled anyway.