2026-09-27 10:21 UTC
Replies (38)
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@lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 10:26
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@remon@ani.social 2026-09-27 10:29
I doubt I’ll watch it, still gonna download it and put on my media server regardless. Other people will want to watch it so it’s better they watch it pirated on plex than on an official stream.
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@QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 2026-09-27 10:40
I wouldn’t watch it anyways, I got tired of Harry Potter in the early 2000s.
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@eurodyne@piefed.world 2026-09-27 10:48
There’s a bunch of flaws in your logic here, first of which is: There is no ethical Harry Potter consumption within capitalism. Privacy isn’t capitalism
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@cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 10:52
Agree 100%. I’ve been in some tough conversations with fellow LGBTQ+ allies over my participation, however minor, in the Harry Potter fandom. I’m seeing a lot of “it’s fine if you liked it before we learned JKR was a bigot” but I’m also seeing a lot of people with the same story as mine — discovered the franchise back then, enjoyed it, but do not like what JKR is doing to the trans community — but also criticising me for the same. Like it’s “fine” (to some extent?) if you’re trans and JKR betrayed you, but if you’re not trans, you’re held to a higher standard as an ally. I dunno. It’s confusing. I will not, however, back down from my claim that I enjoyed the first four (+HBP) books and the first four films before I learned she was crazy… and that this year I rewatched Philosopher’s Stone in 4K (and yes, it holds up). All that being said, the fears and concerns in the trans and LGBTQ+ community are valid. They may be jerks about it online, but as an ally, I can only ever strive to be a better one. I can’t change what I liked in the past and I will not deny it, even to history revisers. But I can change what I do in the present, and I can always strive to Do Better. I don’t like the new Harry Potter series because of why it exists. JKR was disappointed the stars of the film series did not share her transphobic views, so she immediately made a point to recast Hermione and to make her completely different from Emma Watson’s portrayal, as Watson was her most outspoken critic. She didn’t make Hermione a Black girl to be inclusive, she did it to distance Watson from the character because Watson isn’t transphobic. JKR further muddied the waters by saying that Dumbledore was gay and always had been (though no evidence of this is in the books — he’s essentially treated as ace, as in, asexual, as in, his sexuality is undetermined and probably doesn’t exist, which is fitting as the entirety of his character’s relevance is mentorship to an adolescent boy). When the rest of the cast basically stood against her, she set out to recast all of them. The new Harry Potter series looks like it might be fun, but I cannot in good conscience watch the new series. There are so many more things out there to see. Watching it with infinite time would be one thing, but I haven’t got that, have I? I was fully grown when Philosopher’s Stone came out, and I had no intention of seeing it. A coworker slipped me a bootleg copy (while it was still in cinemas!) and I watched it… twice. Then I went and saw it in cinema. I then collected the books and read them, and watched the movies, though I didn’t like it after the fourth one. It stopped being fun. I’m currently reading Dungeon Crawler Carl, and by that I mean, of course, I’m listening to the audiobooks. I’m in the second to most current book, the seventh one, and it’s still fun. It’s gotten serious, but it’s still fun. And, to the best of anyone’s knowledge, Matt Dinniman (the author) and Jeff Hays (the audiobook narrator) are not bigots. That’s the magical adventure series I’m looking forward to.
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@Ilandar@lemmy.today 2026-09-27 10:53
I’ll do what I want, thanks. :)
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@Zephorah@discuss.online 2026-09-27 10:59
I have a set of the books from the time of release. Strangely, I’ve never read the last one. If you’re curious regarding the details, ContraPoints has a long form vid on the issue.
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@ZeroGravitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 11:03
I’m just here to bring to your attention Lev Grossman’s “The Magicians”, both the books and the assorted TV show, which is quite awesome in its own right, even if it diverges from the books by quite a bit. There’s a whole world of awesome outside of HP, and even if it wasn’t, I refuse to recast in my theater of the mind the extremely talented and deeply regretted Alan Rickman and Dame Maggie Smith.
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@woodenghost@hexbear.net 2026-09-27 11:16
Yes, and also it would just be disgusting to me to even have to think about that terf in any way. Plus it’s incredibly terminally lib.
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@loutr@sh.itjust.works 2026-09-27 11:16
At this point it’s only a matter of principle. JKR is a billionaire, her activism isn’t limited by money. And most HP fans don’t care or even know about her hateful views.
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@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 11:26
There are many far worse things people support, directly with their money. Singling out Harry Potter due to the Creator’s outspokenness, while honorably motivated, is short-sighted and feels kind of childish. Like “Oh no, my favorite blorbo was a bad blorbo!” If this is what you have the energy to make a stand on regarding your principles, that’s great. Every bit does help. It just seems dumb to put this much effort into standing against this when there’s so much more and bigger to stand against. Plus, there’s additional weird from moralizing in a piracy community.
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@jwiggler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 11:54
I feel like by this logic you shouldn’t have even brought it up since they also track Internet engagement…
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@redkid1324@sh.itjust.works 2026-09-27 12:14
Grow up.
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@orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 2026-09-27 12:25
There is so much far better content out there to absorb other than Harry Potter. I can go without and be perfectly fine. I think we already have some of the books and DVDs from ages ago. So if my wife or I suddenly have the desire to revisit, we’re not consuming anything HBO or anyone else can even remotely trace.
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@NuanceDemon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 12:49
Piracy subs where they tell you what to do? I think youve missed the point of all this.
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@im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 2026-09-27 13:34
Firstly, I abhor rowling. However, I don’t agree that piracy demonstrates potential earnings to producers.
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@ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 14:00
What? Telling me what I can’t and can do? Or what I should or should not? In a piracy community at that. I will consume specific media when, I want to. I will not consume it when, I don’t want to. If your title was something like “I recommend not to”, that would’ve been a different discussion.
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@Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 2026-09-27 14:12
I’m barely aware it exists and almost never see anything about it. Making a post called “Reminder: do not watch HBO’s Harry Potter.” Is literally marketing it and forcing people to think about it.
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@its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works 2026-09-27 14:22
IMHO the onlyy ethical way to consume new HP media is original fanfics featuring LGTB+ characters. 😆
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@RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 2026-09-27 14:29
Oh dear, the thought police is here, telling me what I can pirate and what is forbidden. I don’t give a crap about Harry Potter and JK Rowling can go to hell along with all her trans hate, but your arguments and your authoritarian wording of the post are a bit ridiculous. You don’t get to tell me what I am ethically allowed to do.
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@bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2026-09-27 15:03
In any case, aside from JKR being a piece of shit who deserves zero support: These remakes seem completely and utterly unnecessary and of questionable production quality anyway. Why rehash the classic movies that were actually decent adaptations of the source material? Is this one arc really the only story worth telling in that universe? Boycott it because JKR is a Nazi. Don’t watch it because it’s yet more Hollywood remake slop.
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@zedricxks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 15:20
yeah no ill do what i want thanks. most tone deaf post iv read in a long time everyone else is authoritarian so let me tell you what to do,like and think.
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@pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2026-09-27 15:26
Meh, sail the seas and do what you want. This sounds like a plea from the corporate overlords to get you to not pirate their shit. Also, what show?
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@ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2026-09-27 15:50
The pomposity in this post, if harnessed, could power a small town for a week.
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@puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 2026-09-27 16:00
As a compromise to not contribute to stat gathering could one not use newsgroups?
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@GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 2026-09-27 16:17
So let me get this straight, I’m supposed to abide by a clear set of rules, set by, who again!? Also i disagree. You can enjoy something, completely guilt free, even if it was created by the biggest trologodyte known to man. Reading a book or watching a movie doesn’t equal wholesale support. Hell I think it would do the world a whole lot of good to read more books, even that are written or suggest ideas that we find offensive or repugnant. For it allows you knowledge, to listen, understand, and to form independent ideas and thought. Basically it creates a better source of knowledge and a defence against darknes. Versus just blindly listening to today’s serially offended internet warrior, who basically has almost zero to offer to humanity other than constant judgement and authoritarian like viewpoints from the opposite spectrum. Fuck you, I won’t do what you tell me. I also won’t watch this show, but only because it looks terrible.
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@rsky@lemmy.ml 2026-09-27 16:23
Thanks for the heads up. I don’t even like Harry Potter and JK Rowling can get fucked for being an out of touch billionaire but I’m gonna find these torrents and seed the shit outta them. If you want to tell people what to do and how to think, you’re probably in the wrong place. Side note: Let’s be real dude; comparing her to Trump, MAGA, Disney, or Nestle is insane and just makes you sound delusional.
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@dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 16:27
Damn straight! Even if I wanted to watch a worse version of the movies I already watched, no fucking support for transphobes!
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@Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 16:58
Boycotts for media work about as well as those for Hogwarts Legacy, not buying a Tesla post 2024, or staying off PSN after Sony announced game discs will no longer be made. Sadly most people don’t care about the political views of those who make these things. The only successful boycott I’ve seen recently is Canadians avoiding American goods in supermarkets and even that took an existential threat of annexation for them to act on it. You’d have an easier time herding cats.
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@someone@lemmy.today 2026-09-27 17:39
It’s shocking to me someone would want to watch this. Harry Potter was never good. Why would someone even want to read a Harry Potter book obtained before 2020??? The TERF stuff didn’t make Harry Potter bad. It always sucked, and people only realized after the TERF stuff.
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@far_university1990@reddthat.com 2026-09-27 18:51
Hobbylos. Blocked.
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@vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-09-27 19:36
i agree OP fuck the haters and lowkey transphobes
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@duckshuffgoose@lemmy.ml 2026-09-27 19:43
Omg… About to go find out why I should stop reading Orson Scott Card… Thanks a ton OP.
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@xianjam@programming.dev 2026-09-27 21:00
There’s a million better things you could be doing with your time than trying to police other people. Cop behavior, peak internet slacktivism.
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@OozingPositron@feddit.cl 2026-09-27 21:25
OP, have you heard of the Streisand effect?
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@chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 21:26
But piracy demand also indicates to companies an untapped market that they could tap if they create the right product I agree with your conclusion of not watching it, but the reason that companies might observe and take a non-purchase as some kind of hypothetical market signal doesn’t seem like the strongest argument for that, especially if people are avoiding the purchase specifically to deny them money for ethical reasons, that’s not something they can resolve by making ‘the right product’. If pirating a Harry Potter show provides support to its author, I think that support is going to be more in the form of cultural relevance and mindshare than anything directly financial. Being a fan of an IP gives other people a reason to engage with it because your interest signals things to other people, like it means that by not watching it they might be left out of the loop etc, and since the law enforces property rights over what can be done with it and who can profit, that adds to the power of its owner.
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@freshfusion@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-09-27 22:33
I did not even remember about HP after childhood. However after after that game and the HBO series boycott mentions and occasional meltdowns about how you should not watch or even pirate it, it enters mine and public consciousness in general, Streisand effect or whatever. I still do not care about HP anyway and am not going to bother. It is fine to not like someone or something, boycott and recommend others to do it for whatever reason, you do you. I must write though that even remotely comparing JK with the likes of evil conglomerates like Disney and Nestle or with MAGA effect on american and world politics is an argument in bad faith to say politely. Also no offense, your ethical rules, arguments and the post overall seem moralizing and patronizing and people that do not already agree with you beforehand do not tend to take it well whether you like it or not, that is just how it works.
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@Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-27 23:02
Never thought I’d see the day when hexbear users would make a ton more sense than anyone else on a given topic. But here we are.