Post #4845560 · Elektrine

2026-09-17 13:57 UTC

Top comment: Stop trying to argue the labels. Rest of comments arguing labels. But, I think we need a banner to gather under, don’t we? Maybe it’s “proletariat”, but not many people know what that means. Your typical American family hasn’t a clue. Most of us aren’t arguing about labels on social media. Most of us are posting TikToks of our dogs, and watching Mr. Beast or Cocomelon(?), apparently. And, whoever-the-hell Charli Grace D’Amelio is. They know “socialist bad” and capitalism is money and they like money. They know Rs on the ballot let them have guns and promise lower taxes. Man, looking at Nextdoor where I live is disheartening.

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@5318008@lemmy.ml 2026-09-18 02:55

But, I think we need a banner to gather under, don’t we? Your typical American family hasn’t a clue… They know “socialist bad”… This is why the specific banner probably doesn’t matter very much. The association “socialist → bad” just comes from a long-running campaign by Western Capitalists to make sure that the peasants make that association. It basically goes, The USSR is bad, and they are socialists, and therefore socialism is bad. And that’s enough for most people. It’s easy to highlight a country’s flaws and convince someone that the country is bad, so 1 took hold, for reasons both reasonable and unreasonable. And 2 is free because they have socialism in the name. And 3 is a common logical fallacy, but it works, because it turns out people aren’t very rational. If we picked up the “Proletariat” banner instead, the same thing would happen. The USSR is bad, and they implemented some of Karl Marx’s ideas, and so Karl Marx is bad, and so the proletariat are bad. It’s not a marketing problem. It’s a problem with who gets to control all of the marketing narratives.

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