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@Sphks@jlai.lu

2026-04-21 14:48 UTC

I'm French and I bet that it's the rythm. I can hear this foreigner with a perfect accent but with a way too perfect rythm with the same tonality: "Bon-jour-deux-croi-ssants-s'il-vous-plait" A French would sing it. Bonjour ! : High pitched, the "bon-" louder than the "-jour", quick, dynamic. A pause... "Deux croissants" medium pitch, without any pause before: "S'il vous plaît". Sometimes said very fast, since it's something you say everyday ("Silouplai"), and with a low pitch since it's the end of the sentence.

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  • @merc@sh.itjust.works 2026-04-21 17:03

    A simpler explanation is that people tend not to be able to hear their own accents. Someone who wasn't brought up speaking French will probably never have an "absolutely perfect" accent. They may think that they sound exactly like everyone around them, but to someone brought up speaking French, they don't. There are a lot of British actors who do American accents for various parts. These are native English speakers who grew up listening to American accents on TV shows and in movies. They work with dialogue coaches, and can rehearse their lines until they think they can deliver them perfectly in American-style English. Any slips in their accent can be fixed in ADR before the film is released. Yet, many people, including me, are able to spot a few quirks in their speaking and often identify these people as not American. For French in particular, it has the "u" sound that also exists in German, but doesn't really exist in English. Many people who weren't brought up with that sound can't even really hear it, or can't hear it as different from the "oo" sound that they associate with the letter "u". As a result, words like "ouverture" don't have two distinct "oo / u" sounds for them. So, they might think they're speaking flawlessly and that nobody can notice, but it's really obvious for anybody who was brought up hearing and speaking French.

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  • And you wonder why people think you are uptight? /s

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  • @BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2026-04-21 20:57

    “Bonjour ! Euhhh…. Deux croissants s’il-vous-plaît et euhh…. ce sera tout”

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  • @Brummbaer@pawb.social 2026-04-21 18:29

    As someone living in France for a while now, that's exactly what I picked up from immersion, never noticed that before.

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  • @fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-04-21 22:02

    So basically the same tempo as HEllooo, two croissants please. Taking as much time saying "s'il vous plait" as "please". Basically talking like a normal person haha.

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  • You describe it and I can hear my aunt (in law) saying it that way. I believe it.

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  • @HowdyLemmy@lemmy.zip 2026-04-21 16:35

    Please do "I’m sorry, but I don’t speak French" now, please, thanks, please. :)

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  • @ccunix@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 06:25

    Unless they are Breton That would be more like "bo------r, (nods vaguely toward the croissants)" the "s'il vous plaît" is implied, but definitely there somewhere. The "merci" will be a slight nod backwards.

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  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzCEZ6KTIS8

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