a lot of pro-LLM argumentation i've seen on here lately, eg around the Debian decision, is from the kind of computer guy who strenuously denies that this kind of layer of political reality exists at all. he wants to sit in his comfy chair and play with his neat computer toys forever, entirely safe from the onerous concept of politics. the people showing up to their city council meetings to fight data centers are 1000x more engaged with reality than these guys.