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@abbadon420@sh.itjust.works

2026-09-22 07:55 UTC

"LLMs can do anything" except make positive cashflow.

Replies (21)

  • @forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 2026-09-22 08:16

    I’m one of the seeming few who paid to register it back in the Win9x days. Turned out that the key also works for the non-free Linux version (think I only ever bothered to set that up once). These days gzipped tarballs or squashfs with zstd are my go-tos. The former for speed with source trees or such, and the latter for filesystem backups or larger directories, because loopback mounting it later is so fast and convenient.

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  • So you’re saying we should be pumping all our saving and pension money in WinRar?

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  • @whaleross@lemmy.world 2026-09-22 08:43

    And a more reliable product that returns the expected results every time.

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  • @greygore@lemmy.world 2026-09-22 10:03

    Actually, I’m pretty sure WeWork was more profitable than OpenAI, both in absolute dollars and percentage.

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  • @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2026-09-22 10:06

    I was finally starting to save up money in a 401k for retirement. Then I got fired. Now the AI bubble is going to burst and nuke what little money is in my 401k. FML.

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  • @Rothe@piefed.social 2026-09-22 11:38

    Your local grocery store is more profitable than OpenAI. In fact you are more profitable than OpenAI. OpenAI owes hundreds of billions of dollars, with a revenue a fraction of that. They will never become profitable.

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  • @bad1080@piefed.social 2026-09-22 11:56

    at this point a granny selling eggs is more profitable

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  • @Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2026-09-22 12:05

    I wonder what will happen in 2027 when those repayments come due.

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  • @makeshift0546@lemmy.today 2026-09-22 12:15

    They could if investors were happy with good enough and didn’t need to release a mediocre update every 8 weeks. Plenty of folks would be happy with opus 4.8 for the next few years and a $20 a month sub.

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  • “I remember once my father and I were walking down Fifth Avenue and there was a homeless person sitting right outside of Trump Tower and I remember my father pointing to him and saying, ‘You know, that guy has $8 billion more than me,’ because he was in such extreme debt at that point, you know?” ~ Ivanka Trump

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  • @bstix@feddit.dk 2026-09-22 15:04

    If AI could really make your business so much more efficient that it makes up for the cost of paying for AI… Why doesn’t Google just run your business themselves?

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  • @raven55six@lemmy.world 2026-09-22 15:46

    That is so true, bringing $40 Billion a year with about $80 Billion as expenses makes OpenAI indeed in a red zone. They should consider shutting down so that we can have some level of relief from AI slop.

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  • They’ll reclassify it as a necessary utility like water or power and tax more subsidies for paying billionaires even more from public coffers before admitting it’s mostly just search engines & corporate social media eating their own tail.

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  • @m532@lemmy.ml 2026-09-22 17:42

    Capitalists: Noo its bad, see, it doesn’t make profit Communists: Free AI for everyone

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  • @affenlehrer@feddit.org 2026-09-22 17:51

    I like LLMs and also the research but I think we’re at a point where one could make a pause, turn the models into silicone and sell them as hardware for people who are actually interested. That would solve all privacy problems, eliminate many data centers, subscription fees, internet dependencies and allow for slower and more thoughtful upgrades (hardware isn’t updated as often as software). That would be a pretty sovereign solution. However, from a company perspective they can’t force it on everyone anymore, don’t get all the juicy data from all the users and can’t sell subscriptions any more and change everything on their side.

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  • @SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2026-09-22 19:10

    Waiter, please bring me 1,000 of your finest shares of WinRAR! I’m going to be rich, I tell you! Quite!

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  • @spacegoat@lemmy.world 2026-09-23 11:40

    My crooked spotted cock is more profitable than OpenAI

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  • @ExtraJudgement@lemmy.world 2026-09-23 13:08

    Proprietary frontier LLMs in companies riddled with highly suspect business practices. My local LLM setup has absolutely been making the equivalence of positive cashflow for me since gemma 4 and qwen 3.8: I need less total time for several groups of annoying (but necessary) tasks, which means my productivity is up and I can use the rest as my own free time.

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  • @BilSabab@lemmy.world 2026-09-23 14:09

    at this rate Winamp might get more profitable than OpenAI and it is free.

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  • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2026-09-23 14:42

    Tech companies are expected to be run at a loss for quite some time before they start being profitable. They were founded in 2015 and “officially” launched GPT in 2022 to the public. If they make profits by 2032, that would be in line with how other tech companies established themselves. For example, Spotify wasn’t profitable until 2024. They launched in 2008. So, I don’t know why them not being profitable is what everyone is talking about. They’re not expected to be profitable until 2030 at the earliest. And every serious investor know this. Yes I’m very fun at parties. But it seems that a lot of people just do not understand the expected timelines of tech companies.

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  • @Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-09-23 20:11

    Seems like you guys dont know how the tech game is played.

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