Post #4659827 · Elektrine

2026-09-08 20:19 UTC

GrapheneOS is based on projects heavily using AI including the Linux kernel. Cellebrite, NSO and other exploit developers are using it to exploit these projects. They currently have a major advantage thanks to AI which will likely be turned into a major disadvantage over the long term. It's getting a huge backlog of bugs fixed and creating enormous pressure to make systemic improvements. Here's what Debian adopted, which is a similar idea but much more permissive: https://www.debian.org/vote/2026/vote_002#texte

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@ludonaut@timetheft.rip 2026-09-09 22:59

@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social many of your users spent a number of years recommending others to specifically avoid projects like calyx and "/e/" due to all the technical, security, and privacy reasons tirelessly documented by you, and use grapheneos instead, if they're able, *because* of your higher standards. and now you keep saying on here that you can't avoid the upstream slop anyway.. others are doing it too, and that somehow makes it ok to use and "carefully" cook your own? this is wrong, and you know it

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@bekkaboo@girlcock.club 2026-09-09 13:03

@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social if this policy keeps up I'm going to have to stop recommending graphene to people the same way Debian is no longer safe for casual users. You're throwing out your base audience. This sucks and you know it.

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