RE: https://toot.cat/@zeenix/117326398656330874 I'm sure this will be dismissed by some folks as "tone policing" but I'll once again try to make this case: the overheated, straight-to-rage reactions are so detrimental to the cause of keeping LLMs/AIs out of FOSS projects. I am not saying that people aren't justified in their feelings. I am saying that every person is responsible for what they do with their feelings, and I have less than zero sympathy for the argument that when a person is angry they are not responsible for managing their response. One of the reasons I'm passionately in favor of projects adopting anti-LLM policies is that I still believe in the Apache Software Foundation's motto of "community over code". My love of FOSS has always been mixed with the appreciation of the people and communities behind the code. LLMs are, at best, rejection of community ethos. They are the "go alone" in the saying "If you want to go far, go together. If you want to go fast, go alone". But hate and contempt are always, always, always corrosive. You cannot build on that foundation, and you cannot persuade people when you're demonstrating naked contempt for them. You cannot. The attempt to create a hostile environment for FOSS maintainers in order to coerce them into anti-LLM policies is not going to preserve a FOSS culture we want to be part of. It is counter-productive to swarm project issue trackers and discussion fora with angry messages calling people names. Believe it or not, if you've never spoken up in a project before, now is probably *not* the time to create an account and start angrily posting that the project is "mask off" because it's considering an LLM policy shy of absolute LLM banishment. I think the "KDE for people" thing is fine. I think KDE Eco's statement was good. Talking on social media about this is fine - without the contempt. I get that there's so much to be angry about right now that it's really hard to keep it focused where it needs to be. But if we turn the anger on each other, we're hosed. Just absolutely hosed. I'm sure that the Sam Altmans, Elon Musks, and DHHs of the world are absolutely thrilled to see the anti-LLM folks going full PETA in these discussions, because they fracture communities that could stand up against them.