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@crowgirl@hachyderm.io

2023-07-07 12:18 UTC

This is a warning about Meta and Threads. Please boost this here and outside of Mastodon so that pregnant people in the United States are informed that using Meta/Threads is dangerous. I'm unlikely to get pregnant but I have ZERO presence on Meta/Facebook/Instagram/Threads as a matter of principle. #abortionrights #pregnant #threads

Replies (36)

  • @Ironraptor@yiff.life 2023-07-07 12:56

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io Again, this is why it is not launching in Europe https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/threads-no-eu-launch/amp/?guccounter=1

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  • @ar1@mastodon.social 2023-07-07 13:41

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io 100% correct, @crowgirl@hachyderm.io . Again. 👍

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  • @belikekramer@masto.ai 2023-07-07 13:55

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io People are going to Zuck the guy who sent their dads down the rabbit hole...ill be damned https://youtu.be/34IJEQQgwfIastodon.art

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  • @bmaxv@noc.social 2023-07-07 13:56

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io this is what "Let's scan internet chats for criminal activity" will look like in practice. @EU_Commission@social.network.europa.eu #Chatkontrolle #chatcontrol

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  • @capnthommo@c.im 2023-07-07 14:16

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io well said

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  • @wenger@mastodon.social 2023-07-07 14:35

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io uff… sadly in my country probably soon this will be our reality too.

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  • @externelly@mastodon.online 2023-07-07 14:42

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io https://jezebel.com/nebraska-mom-and-teen-daughter-face-criminal-charges-fo-1849387571

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  • @LizzyB2001@mastodon.social 2023-07-07 15:21

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io @Matthew2468@dragonscave.space I mean, I don’t plan on getting pregnant as of now but I will definitely be mindful of where I post things when the time comes. Thanks so much for sharing this!

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  • @crowgirl@hachyderm.io that’s brutal from META to further traumatizs the poor woman by handing over the facebook messages. Disgusting.

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  • @DavidSamuelAuer@ohai.social 2023-07-07 15:44

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io Thanks for warning. I won't get pregnant, but that alone is good enough reason to avoid Threads. Wasn't planning on going there regardless. One more reason to despise Mark *uckerburg. #ReproductiveRights are #HumanRights.

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  • @OutOnTheMoors@beige.party 2023-07-07 15:58

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io This is what happened at kolektiva.social too. If there's a subpoena or a warrant, site owners have to hand over the info. Meta is bad enough as it is. Why spread misinformation?

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  • @jsnidal@kolektiva.social 2023-07-07 16:10

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io I … have ZERO presence on Meta/Facebook/Instagram/Threads as a matter of principle. Same here!

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  • @nektworks@wetdry.world 2023-07-07 16:23

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io This applies to every messaging service that doesn’t use end-to-end encryption (or not by default, like Facebook Messenger).

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  • @skymtf@tech.lgbt 2023-07-07 16:31

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io I wonder if old twitter would of helped anti abortion people too, *sigh. I just hate big tech so much, and it's really awful that most people are not educated about E2EE. Keep in mind your hsotijg provider could ram dump your mastodon instance, backup the drive, decrypt it and send it to the state gov.

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  • @Mallulady@mastodon.world 2023-07-07 16:39

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io 😳😳

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  • @bry@mstdn.social 2023-07-07 17:12

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io historians will point to Facebook and that asshole Zuck as the start of our downfall

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  • @expert@hear-me.social 2023-07-07 17:23

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io what on the earth?

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  • @TopKnot@mas.to 2023-07-07 17:40

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io #BeatTheSystem? I wonder what would happen if I talked a majority of my male "Friends" on Facebook/Threads to post every week, something like ... "I had an illegal abortion in Smithville, Florida last week and the procedure went smoothly."

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  • @crowgirl@hachyderm.io This is why you always use end-to-end encryption for private messages.

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  • @AskPippa@c.im 2023-07-07 17:56

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io It's never a good idea to put anything very personal on any social media, anywhere -- to some degree it's all public. And police can often issue warrants for private groups -- like they did in this case after someone tipped them off.

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  • @Z1a@mstdn.social 2023-07-07 18:01

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io wow i love threads more now

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  • @mrbruno@mstdn.social 2023-07-07 18:48

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io One more reason not to use Meta!

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  • @guy@masto.ai 2023-07-07 19:08

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io I'm pro-choice, but it should be noted that the woman in question was 7 months pregnant at the time that she aborted her pregnancy. This might not be the story that highlights why Meta sucks.

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  • @crowgirl@hachyderm.io https://jezebel.com/is-it-safe-to-talk-about-abortion-on-facebook-arrest-o-1849397713

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  • @ev_rider_j@sfba.social 2023-07-07 19:18

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io I was on the fence about Threads. Not anymore.

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  • @crowgirl@hachyderm.io first day on mastodon, go to trending page, and I see a screenshot of a tweet that has a picture of a website that is source material. But no access to source material. There is zero easy way to verify if what you posted is true. Just for anyone who happens to be reading, screenshots as sources become a slippery slope where misinformation absolutely will find its way in if you are unable to fact check

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  • @crowgirl@hachyderm.io Alarming indeed. Thanks for headsup

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  • @crowgirl@hachyderm.io Time to cut any/all ties to Meta and Twitter, of course.

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  • @crowgirl@hachyderm.io I'm fortunate enough to live in a country where abortion is legal and accessible. I stand with those who do not have that right.

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  • @crowgirl@hachyderm.io IMO, that's not 'actively helping', it's responding to a lawful request/subpoena/warrant, and almost every Mastodon admin would likely do the same, or 'have it done for them the hard way'. Actively helping would be something like creating a live query for abortion activities in chats and feeding it to law enforcement. I'm on your side here, but I'm seeing a lot of 'Meta did THIS!' as if it's not something every company and admin pretty much has to do when compelled by a judge.

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  • @PatriciaAWA@mastodon.social 2023-07-07 20:51

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io

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  • @mintakka@astrodon.social 2023-07-07 21:13

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io wow - didn’t know this. Thanks for sharing - scary stuff.

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  • @crowgirl@hachyderm.io It is good to have a source... Digital news paper or something... Like this: https://www.npr.org/2022/08/12/1117092169/nebraska-cops-used-facebook-messages-to-investigate-an-alleged-illegal-abortion

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  • @boojit@mastodon.pundo.com 2023-07-07 21:33

    @crowgirl@hachyderm.io Interesting. Here's what I believe to be the link to the story in that screenshot: https://jezebel.com/nebraska-teen-pleads-guilty-to-charges-related-to-self-1850465933 Looks to me like Meta was served with a warrant and they complied with the warrant. Definitely not trying to go to bat for Meta here, but I'm not sure that there is much they could do in this particular case. (that said, IA-definitely-NAL and for all I know they could have fought this).

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  • @crowgirl@hachyderm.io Not to mention that Meta's content moderation practices (and note that I said *practices,* not policies, because their written policies -- what little they make public -- are not what they enforce) almost always punish victims and protect abusers. Hate speech is allowed, but condemning it often gets you put in "Facebook jail." It's total and complete bullshit, and they revel in it. That alone is enough to justify defederating them.

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