@s1m0n4@ohai.social I haven't read that yet but VDL did announce a European Security Council (which is not her call but it's a first step, or actually 100th step but renewed I guess). I know we have some (toothless) defence infrastructure but am unaware of a Defence Council? Ordinarily I would have written off the UK as a potential member given their US sycophancy but when it comes to defence it may be different. Burnham also hasn't shown much colour yet on this issue sso who knows (though I don't expect much). I'm not well informed enough on Australia to have an opinion. In my ideal scenario we keep NATO for now but build up our own similar organisation as Europeans and allied nations - fully on the basis of equality, without big dogs - and ditch NATO as soon as we can. And that includes no more US bases in Europe.