@thousandleaves@universeodon.com @TechConnectify@mas.to Yeah, I think there'll have to be a bit of a compromise when it comes to EV minivans or more commercial/Euro-style MPVs/vans like the Kia PV5 and the the ID. Buzz. I did consider the ID. Buzz for a little bit, since I really do live the styling, but I just couldn't with the VW controls/infotainment system. I still ogle at them I see them driving around.