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@tatterdemalion@programming.dev

2026-10-03 05:45 UTC

What do you think is the future of file sharing? There are now many technologies for P2P file sharing: Usenet Bittorrent IPFS Tenfinger more? And also several technologies for anonymization: VPNs Tor I2P AFAICT the most popular option is still Bittorrent with various public and private trackers and indexers. Private trackers seem to be the most effective option that communities have converged on. I’ve tried all of the above solutions over the years and while I think something like I2P sounds great in theory, it doesn’t seem to actually work well in practice. Because it’s not terribly popular, it’s hard to know what to expect. We clearly still haven’t found the ideal model that can provide both good performance, discovery, access, availability, and anonymity. But do you think we will actually make progress on these problems? We seem to have stabilized on a local maximum.

Replies (13)

  • @django@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-10-03 05:53

    I guess anything too convenient is bound to be attacked by lawyers.

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  • @MrSulu@lemmy.ml 2026-10-03 06:23

    I try alternatives but keep returning to ‘old fashioned’ BT + VPN.

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  • Some type of multi-dimensional quantum storage will be developed that will allow simultaneous, unlimited, instant sharing across as many different people as want to. This will all fit into something the size of a thumb drive and allow direct viewing/listening through implants.

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  • @BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 2026-10-03 06:54

    Ive trued private trackers, but there is very little for me to try and keep up the ratio them while on public my share ratio is well above 5. Public trackers and no vpn gets it done

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  • @UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nl 2026-10-03 07:45

    SoulSeek? Its like old limewire; dangerous and also full of really kind people too. Nicotine+ is a client.

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  • @mp3@lemmy.ca 2026-10-03 14:57

    BitTorrent is a good middle ground between decentralization, adoption and user-friendliness. I think the transport layer is pretty solid, and there’s no need to stick an anonymity layer at the protocol level, as the preferred method might change over time. Combined with a VPN to handle the anonymity part, I think it’s solid and modular enough.

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  • @dan@upvote.au 2026-10-04 03:49

    Usenet is client-server, not P2P. The issue with “good performance” on P2P systems is that you’re reliant on other users’ bandwidth, and there’s a lot of people in the world that have slow upload speeds. Some users use a seedbox with a fast datacenter-grade 10Gbps or 40Gbps connection, but it’s not common. The obvious approach if you want to download something from people with slow connections is to download parts of the same files from a lot of them in parallel, which is exactly what BitTorrent does. That’s good enough for plenty of use cases, which is why BitTorrent has been around for so long. It’s got plenty of legit use cases too, especially in research (where it’s common to have data files that are tens or hundreds of gigabytes and need to be shared with other researchers) and in gaming (where it was common to use BitTorrent to download updates, at least outside of Steam).

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  • #utopeer it's hard to grasp but it's decentralized tracker (in the community of people sharing torrents file/magnets) over #nostr @piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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  • You included memes (IPFS), and omitted important shit (DC, original Freenet), not to mention some old networks (ed2k, gnutella/G2) that went out of fashion, but are not fully extinct. As for the future, the situation could get grim at a much lower level, as both the “file” as an ubiquitously accessible unit, and desktop computers in general as ubiquitously available and affordable hardware, are both under threat, with the latter already affected by the semi-fake partial (for now) scarcity supposedly fully caused by the AI craze.

    Open ##4921711

  • @fartzo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-10-04 13:34

    I miss audio galaxy

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  • @scratchmex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-10-04 23:36

    iroh.computer/…/iroh-global-content-discovery

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  • @LodeMike@lemmy.today 2026-10-05 00:53

    BitTorrent, IPFS, and maybe some airdrop standard like thing.

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  • @DeadEndLink@lemmy.ca 2026-10-05 01:26

    Dead drops.

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