@baearea_lenita @Ilka4You @vnikolov @BruceMirken @Pineywoozle @aaron @Seb321 @benroyce @Robotistry @ariaflame @hotelzululima @UkeleleEric turtles punish the wealthy more frequently than America does. that doesn't mean Europe does it often :-) I definitely agree very strongly with your other points though.