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2026-09-04 13:37 UTC

The real monster turned out to be AI plagiarism

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  • It’s not proven but some folks think she wasn’t ahead of her time and stole her story. I wouldn’t believe it myself but it’s sort of hard when she was hanging around “Castle Frankenstein” that was rumored to have a grave robbing scientist that lived there who did experiments to bring creatures back to life… From a bot: The breakdown of the claims behind this theory includes:The “Mad Scientist” of Castle Frankenstein: Johann Conrad Dippel, an alchemist and physician, was born at Burg Frankenstein (near Darmstadt, Germany) in 1673. Local legends—largely popularized long after Shelley’s time—claimed he practiced grave robbing, boiled bones to create an “elixir of life” (known as Dippel’s Oil), and attempted to transfer souls between corpses. The Travel Connection: In 1814, Mary Shelley, her step-sister Claire Clairmont, and Percy Bysshe Shelley traveled down the Rhine River. They stopped in Gernsheim, Germany, which is roughly 10 miles away from Castle Frankenstein. This proximity led some pop-historians to theorize that she visited the castle or heard local tales of Dippel from boat captains along the river. The Lack of Documentation: Mary Shelley’s detailed journals and letters from that 1814 trip make no mention of Castle Frankenstein, Dippel, or local ghost stories. When the travelers ran low on money, they rushed back to England, leaving very little time for unauthorized detours. Where the Name Came From: Shelley famously stated that the core concept of the novel came to her during a waking dream at Lord Byron’s house in Switzerland during the “Year Without a Summer” (1816), after a late-night ghost-story challenge. As for the name “Frankenstein,” it is a real German surname meaning “stone of the Franks”. Linguistic and literary historians note that it was a striking, gothic-sounding word she likely encountered or naturally synthesized, without needing a specific real-world blueprint. Ultimately, while the parallels between Dippel’s legends and Victor Frankenstein’s fictional misadventures make for a fascinating modern urban legend,

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  • @anzo@programming.dev 2026-09-04 22:36

    false positives exist, and the real monster is that it also happens with “faces” of criminals.

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  • @mrmisses@lemmy.world 2026-09-04 14:56

    Does it think it’s AI because it was trained on it so it recognizes it as being part of AI now?

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  • @Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2026-09-04 19:24

    We’re using AI to determine what is AI, even though AI doesn’t know what AI is. Perfectly reasonable, no careers will be destroyed, surely

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  • @Avicenna@programming.dev 2026-09-05 05:34

    confidently incorrect

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  • @hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 2026-09-05 05:44

    Yeah yeah AI system has false positives. Like a human, really. In fact humans are pretty bad at detecting AI text: arxiv.org/html/2211.13087 Among AI models, Blenderbot stood out: in AI-AI conversations, it was judged human 67% of the times - more often than actual human-human conversations. In human-AI conversations, human participants were labeled as humans 68% of the time, and AIs were classified as AI 56% of the time. (FYI, a detection rate of 50% is the same as random chance, so 56% is pretty poor)

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  • @InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 2026-09-04 22:29

    I’ve been commenting on the open, public internet in some form or fashion since the 1900s. These models have been trained to sound like me, not the other way around. Fortunately, the bullies at the back of the class who don’t pay attention have mostly caught on to this fact, after having it repeated to them hundreds of times. The other day I was thinking about it, and realized it’s been a bit since anybody’s accused me of using AI to write a comment. I think it’s because I stopped proofreading what I write. Leave in those mistakes and the assholes at the back of the room who don’t pay attention are too naive to think that machines can’t make mistakes, I guess.

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  • @LePoisson@lemmy.world 2026-09-05 06:35

    I made a machine with the purpose of literally creating output that plausibly sounds like a human wrote it. Now that it creates things that sound plausibly like they came from a real person it’s a problem. Now quick make something else that pretends to know it’s not human when the whole point of the damn machine is to sound human. Tjciiktn it’s ridiculous. HMsie?$+'izhav!&(:8_! This world is so fucked

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  • Before anyone goes on a wild goose chase, this excerpt is on the opening of Chapter 4 instead of 5 in the first edition. Anyone surprised to find that public domain art is determined to be AI generated does not realize that feeding an LLM requires a lot of art, and public domain is the easiest one to come across. AI detectors, as far as I know, check AI signs, and (most) AI signs came from their use by public domain artworks.

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  • @spacehulk@lemmy.zip 2026-09-05 10:37

    AI is like: “i made this”

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  • @87Six@lemmy.zip 2026-09-05 10:40

    Damn, GPTZero also flags it as 57% AI.

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