2026-09-10 09:58 UTC
Replies (14)
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@AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 2026-09-10 12:07
Remind me to stay away from that Nazi bar. Defenders of genAI might as well hoist their vintage early 1940s German flags while they’re ahead! Though I suppose an Italian or Japanese flag from the same time period would also work as well.
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@shifty@leminal.space 2026-09-10 10:24
I’m with Linus Torvalds and GrapheneOS on this. AI is a useful tool, for all its flaws and negative externalities.
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@hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 2026-09-11 01:44
Reading the comments, wow AI is polarizing. Neither side will budge. I guess only time will tell, to see if all the AI code will actually come crashing down.
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@uszo165@futurology.today 2026-09-10 22:28
If it was about real AI – not stochastic parrots – I would be all for it. What happened to those developments that started in the 70s where you have automatic formal proofs that a piece of code does what it is supposed to do? That is intelligent. Producing slop more voluminous and convoluted than humans could produce or understand is not intelligent software architecture just like fixing a hole in a roof by throwing what sticks at it is not intelligent building architecture. Both may do the job for some time. But what are the long-term costs and who is capable to clean up? In my opinion, what’s most desired is tools that are bug free, do what they should without annoying the user, and are radically simplified in their architecture. (For example, I would be happy with a perfectly working product that does what NFS or Samba aspire and fail to do for decades.) Apparently, AI can’t deliver that. To have the billionth app that is a browser wrapper and shows me exactly one website is much more important.
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@DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 2026-09-10 16:52
If they're just using it to find and patch bugs/exploits? Fine by me. Vibe coding? Get the fuck outta here.
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@qyron@sopuli.xyz 2026-09-10 10:44
I am not a coder in any fashion but this is the make or break frontier for development, particularly FOSS and small scale projects. AI is evil. It is an ecological nightmare, socially and economically distructive, prompted on the theft of the knowledge and work of every creative endeavour any person as ever made and pointed at rendering pointless any future aspiration of individual creation someone may have. The association has been made and it is not going away.
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@chewypoops@lemmy.world 2026-09-11 04:56
There really is a difference between AI-assisted coding and vibe coding, and I don’t know enough about actually coding to look at their repos and tell you what’s happening.
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@RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 2026-09-11 05:10
Sooner than later most things the average person does will sort of be vibe coded like compiling to an intermediate language. The idea of apps and walled gardens will not be as important. Instead of approved apps, it will be approved models and agents. Even the idea of an operating system is going to change. Linux is a great space for integrating the computing environment with AI coding. The full source is available to the model and any change you ask it to make can just be done for you. The idea of running a “Linux” or “Windows” could be limited to certain software and domains.
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@notSys@lemmy.cafe 2026-09-10 13:42
I don’t like GOS devs, they are not focused on usablity, but on security (which is completely valid, but it’s a shame that GOS is the most usable mobile OS), but holy based. If you are disputing AI utility in coding: Recent Linux kernel versions fixed up to 3 times more CVEs in comparision to releases before AI. Also, much less of those CVEs are found in the newer versions, which means new kernel releases contain better code.
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@BrickEater@lemmy.world 2026-09-10 11:23
Cool well I’ll keep using Lineage until they become massive piles of steaming crap as well. Fuck AI and all you silicon ball lickers.
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@unglueclass23@programming.dev 2026-09-11 07:25
A bit unrelated, but I wonder if I’m the only one left that is: Using small, open-weight models Asking it to only write small snippets that I can easily go through, check and understand. Copying pasting from good old web frontends instead of integrating it into my editor or whatever else people do with agents nowadays. I feel like when we’re talking about AI this sort of usage gets lumped into the same pile as agentic vibe coding and it’s not helpful for discussion. Surely most people wouldn’t find this problematic?
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@droopy4096@lemmy.ca 2026-09-11 22:26
OSS projects have already started to recognize that LLM is just a tool and how you use that tool matters a lot more than whether you are using said tool at all. Lets bring StackOverflow for analogy: we didn’t ban browsers for code development because one can navigate to StackOverflow and copy-paste some really crappy code. LLMs are SO on steroids (actually trained on SO topics). So grabbing LLM to get a sense of direction or shape is an OK use in general, but copy-pasting it’s results blindly is silly and dangerous. There’s a second argument that AI is ruining OSS communities which I believe is true, but refusing to accept AI code is a self-defeating action. Why? Because AI training needs unadulterated source of knowledge, one not tainted with AI and OSS communities rejecting AI would be that source. Also: if OSS community did not use AI it would hardly stop it from continuing it’s growth in Enterprise. So there’s not much of a winning strategy there either. Which brings us to GrapheneOS decision and given above reasons I think it’s a well-balanced decision.
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@Vendetta@feddit.org 2026-09-11 08:43
I’d argue that this news is over-blown. The project has more than a solid and honorable track record with insanely talented engineers behind it. AI is a new technology that is not going anywhere. I would put my faith into their decisions to improve this project by whatever means they think are best. The truth is most commenters are not technically skilled to evaluate or critique their decisions. If GOS team, who again would be at the top % in the field, feel that this can elevate the project, should we not give them the benefit of the doubt?
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@abc@suppo.fi 2026-09-12 06:43
People are insane.