@charette@mstdn.ca have had mine done as a kid mom did them with self piercing hoops and that means the holes had curves in them and then and to find self with continuous bleeding and liquid leaking and to find unable to heal properly when you yank the hoops when brushing hair or even with own fingers when you go to scratch or everytime changing earrings.. Think my ear backs have sealed and front could get something pushed in and bleed if try anything and finally the solid scar tissue is gone .. been wearing clip earrings for years and now nothing at all ...