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2026-08-11 12:06 UTC

@david_chisnall@infosec.exchange > This is misleading. The phone number in Signal is not used for message routing at all it is not, any government can block Signal's servers and SMS codes for login in, in places like Iran while Signal is not working during shutdown, ArcaneChat and similar do > Your only rationale in the comic is that they are hosted on AWS. the thing is, besides any technical matter, it is just plain bad to support Signal when millions of dollars donated go to Amazon and other big tech

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  • @arcanechat@fosstodon.org it is not, any government can block Signal's servers and SMS codes for login in, in places like Iran while Signal is not working during shutdown, ArcaneChat and similar do Iran is completely cut off from the Internet, everything requiring an outside connection is down (unless it was restored recently). If you have a server for AcaneChat inside the country, the Iranian security services do have complete visibility into dataflow (they also ran quite a lot of Tor exit nodes for the same purpose). So if that's the use case you're recommending then you'd better be really confident that you're resilient against passive adversaries or you will get people killed. the thing is, besides any technical matter, it is just plain bad to support Signal when millions of dollars donated go to Amazon and other big tech Okay, finally a point I agree with. But 'Using Signal sends money to Amazon' is not the point that you originally made (though it is a good one).

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