Someone recently complained about all the taxes we pay. I said: "well, our social system want's to be paied, too. But okay, let's lower the taxes - which kind of services are you willing to give up?" He responded with several services that OTHERS benefit from. I let him talk and then said: "nono, what are YOU willing to give up, not what you want to take away from others? I mean, we want less taxes, so we give away sth" ... and then there was silence. I think he got the point.