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2026-04-24 08:56 UTC

> followups by other teams that were able to find most of the same vulnerabilities with other existing models The one I saw was marketing hype by a company claiming to be able to do the same thing but cheaper. But when you read the fine print, you could tell that it was all just fudged. It's comical how people who *need* to believe that it's all just marketing hype bought that marketing hype hook, line, and sinker. The implication that this would mean that LLMs are far, far more capable than anyone gives them credit for, completely slipped past them. Stochastic parrots with no understanding.

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  • @jj4211@lemmy.world 2026-04-24 12:42

    LLMs can be useful in this context, but Anthropic blew Mythos way way out of proportion. It absolutely was overly hyped. Their own demonstrator had to work with a downlevel firefox so it would still have vulnerabilities that were already fixed before they even started. It seems that their narrative is that other tools, some LLM and some not may be as good or better than Mythos at *finding* issues, but there were a couple of issues where Mythos was able to actually create a demonstrator, which the other models did not do. Which is relatively less interesting, as a human going from finding to demonstrator is generally not a huge part of the tedium, the tedium usually is in the finding. They pitched it as "it is dangerous, it will escape confinement", etc etc. But instead they had to explicitly start with a downlevel firefox with known vulnerabilities unpatched and they further had to disable all the security mitigations that in practice had already made the two "vulnerabilities" impossible to exploit. It's a matter of degree and exaggeration.

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  • @Nalivai@lemmy.world 2026-04-24 09:27

    > he implication that this would mean that LLMs are far, far more capable than anyone gives them credit for, completely slipped past them. That's because those implications are blatant, open, clear lies. Your slop generator provides negative value to everyone except those who own it.

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