@brie @techokami@woof.tech It is arguably a bit of a shame but TBH it's not something I really want or miss. You may enjoy the article I wrote comparing the 2 of them a few years ago. https://www.theregister.com/software/2022/07/28/battle-of-the-retro-unix-desktops-nscde-pitted-against-cde/521134