Post #4776155 · Elektrine

2026-09-20 09:31 UTC

Always fence-sitting, I’m so tired of the current KDE leadership, I’m genuinely stopping my donations now. “Hey KDE, Framework supports Nazis, can you not collaborate with them?” Nope sorry, we need the money for our AI experiments, we will put their logo on all our pages now and will beg them to pre-install us on their overpriced laptops. We love our LGBT community though, we made the latest mascot trans! Please forget that we accept money from people that want you dead! Slimbook, donates to or supports Omarchy, and still has ads on kde.org slimbook.com/en/…/introduction-to-omarchy-484 Framework wants to preinstall Fedora KDE and KDE and Fedora leaders are super excited about it: “It’s really exciting to see this device become the first Framework device to ship with KDE and Plasma software. We have put a lot of effort into making sure our software is fun to use with touch and pen input.” - Aleix Pol, President of KDE e.V. frame.work/…/framework-laptop-12-now-with-core-se… There’s just no backbone, everything’s about money money money and money. All it will take is an Anthropic or OpenAI sponsorship for whatever mild AI guidelines to get repealed. What’s the alternative anymore? Cosmic is made by a hardware company, I have 0 trust in that. All it’ll take is a loss in profits for it to be abandoned. XFCE is full in on AI. LXQT is okay with AI contributions. Cinnamon moves way too slowly and has no opinion on AI. Gnome told Framework to kick rocks and has some strict anti-AI policies in some places but if I wanted a worse MacOS, I’d use MacOS. All the window managers are too barebones and the GUIs on top are all vibecoded. DankMaterialShell? Vibecoded. Noctalia? Vibecoded. Hyprland is naziware. Quickshell? vibecoded. Qt itself has AI assistants in its IDE. So really what’s the alternative? Windows and Mac are also vibecoded. Firefox and Chrome are also vibecoded. Even programming languages and compilers are getting being vibecoded.

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@rozodru@piefed.world 2026-09-20 11:28

this is why the “year of the linux desktop” is never going to happen. This past year, hell the past few months, have shown why it won’t happen. The Linux community is divided and will never agree with each other. On the one side you have people who are anti-AI and advocates for pure FOSS. generally this is the user. On the other side you have people who are open to AI, or straight up pro AI and while they are all about FOSS will never hesitate to accept money for their projects. This is pretty much the devs and maintainers. So it’s not going to happen and if anything is going to drive the current userbase away from Linux and embrace a new userbase that simply either doesn’t care or is unaware. Look at Omarchy. that’s exactly their target demographic. As for the current userbase when the options become more and more limited then where do you go? to one of the BSDs? Haiku? something else? The problem is a fully embraced AI ecosystem is a sloppy one. After reading that Omarchy “made” their own kernel last night I decided to install that on an SSD to check out. I lasted all of 30minutes before I wiped the drive. It’s a mess. an absolute mess. But it’s one that is being embraced by a group that many current linux users don’t agree with and that userbase is growing, and growing quickly. I’m in the process of ditching linux. It’s not for me anymore. it’s not fun anymore. and while people can say “well just ignore the politics behind whatever project and just use whatever you want” that might be easy for some people with weak morals and ethics but I’m not like that. I can’t. so I won’t.

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@LostWanderer@fedia.io 2026-09-20 20:52

Where did you find the Noctalia vibe coding evidence, I need to take a look at it to be certain, as I am debating if I want to use KaOS which uses Niri+Noctalia. I need that certainty before I just bugger off from using KaOS. As I'd love a reasonably easy to install, systemd free distro. KaOS meets that criteria. If anything, I might as well build my own damn WM after learning Python and C, as the beauty of Linux is I can build my own software and bugger off of the supplied stuff best as possible.

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@kevinrns@mstdn.social 2026-09-22 20:08

@Kiriko@awful.systems @e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de KDE project must REMOVE the KDE admin group completely, vote them out. Remove their passwords. KDE devs, remove and replace KDE admistration. #KDE #election #admin

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@Philip@social.simplexity.quest 2026-09-22 20:31

I think Framework is good and they made a mistake supporting Omarchy last year or whenever it was

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@alter_unicorn@masto.bike 2026-09-23 07:45

@Kiriko@awful.systems @e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de thanks for the heads-up. I was two months from buying they expensive NAS. I guess I'll stick with plan B: lots of Inexpensive Disks©, recycled PC and NetBSD (+ a donation to free software projects that are still made by humans, like NetBSD (or any other animal that learns to type text)).

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