Post #4667409 · Elektrine

2026-08-31 22:10 UTC

Not sure what Comey has to do with Democrats being more similar to Republicans than they are different, but there is no question that Hillary Clinton mishandled classified information, as have literally every Secretary of State since Colin Powell. I know people personally who have been punished for less than what they did when it comes to classified materials, and it would have cost the DNC nothing to not shove her down our throats in 2016. On the contrary, her enabling a known sex pest for decades would have made it the perfect time to publicly and loudly throw her under the bus like they did Al Franken. Stop including immigration. It does not help your argument. Obama was called the “deporter-in-chief” because he broke records for the number of people removed from the country. He separated kids from guardians like Trump, but he didn’t advertise it as a way of trying to deter those fleeing places we helped make unsafe. If you think this is a measurable difference in policy, you might be a mainstream Dem. The only reason gay marriage is legal is that Republicans pressed their luck with the Defense of Marriage Act, and Biden managed to guafe his way into making Obama reverse the position he held when he was elected the first time. How brave!!! There is no doubt that there will be more than a few prominant democrats who join the Republicans to strip that right away when the time comes. Democrats had literal decades to codify Roe, but instead they used it as an evergreen issue to fundraise on. When the inevitable finally happened, Biden could have directed the military bases in states that outlawed abortion to set up places on federal land to provide health care to women in those states and restore their rights. But he didn’t do that. Instead, he gave a speech to a roomful of donors and regurgitated anti-choice talking points he learned from the Pope. Tell me again what Democrats did to counter the Republicans stealing the SCOTUS seat that Obama appointed a lifelong Republican to, but instead went to a lifelong republican appointed by Trump? That’s right, they put together a committee that failed to recommend anything. I don’t understand how anyone can be so upset with Republicans, but not mind Democrats.

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@starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 2026-09-03 07:08

I was using comey as an example of democrats trying to be good faith and avoid seeming biased, and Republicans not caring and smearing them anyway. I think democrats have learned that lesson, with the majority now voting directly on party lines (minus the few who are just Republicans, like Chuck Schumer). Hillary won the popular vote in the primaries in 2016, blame the voters for saying “Bernie old socialism bad, can’t vote for him!!” And then voting for Trump. She definitely mishandled documents as did every president, but no president had such an incredible witch hunt for a mistake every president in the history of the US has made, that was loudly broadcast on national news, called out by the head fbi agent, that is just insanity. The Obama number was because they now did formal “removals” where previoue administrations did informal “returns,” i.e. at the border or recently crossed in, which massively inflated the numbers. Not to say there weren’t some terrible situations with immigration under him. In his second term they changed focus with ICE to avoid people who had been settled, and mainly go after those who had committed crimes or recently crossed. Again there were definitely some hugely negative parts to it, but Biden had no such draconian policy. Even the worst things done by Obama pale in comparison to what Trump is doing, and unlike Obama who changed course, Trump is tripling down, trying to kill as many brown people as possible, and we’re only 2 years in. Gay marriage was not that popular during the Obama years, there has been a massive shift in that in the past ~15 years or so. When I was growing up, bullying people for being gay and saying it’s unnatural and wrong was extremely common, now you really only hear that from very religious or very extreme Republicans. In about 2010 that shift started to swing over to most people don’t mind it, and the president and senate will reflect their constituency. I’m not saying he was a saint on these issues, but Republicans are, with no exaggeration, literal demons who want trans and gay people to stop existing. I really don’t think codifying roe v wade would have made any difference with this supreme court, they would just say “it’s unconstitutional cuz it kills a life lol” and it’s gone. They probably should have anyway, but it would’ve just been symbolic, the Republicans do not care about rules at all. I mean I can’t really argue on that, democrats seem to have a “the guardrails will hold” attitude while the Republicans tear through them any chance they get. I’ve been immensely disappointed several times, like when some “”“democrats”“”" caved during the government shutdown, what was the point of holding out at all then? I’m just saying one side is being literal demons, and one side is not resistant enough to those demons. Democrats in power = sometimes very good policy, sometimes very bad policy. Republicans in power = ruin everyone’s lives, tear families apart at a massive scale, destroy the environment, get into wars, support dictators, kill American citizens, defraud the government, cheat more evil people into power. Even if your single ticket issue was israel palestine, Trump is literally netanyahu’s lapdog, and basically doubled their funding.

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