@Myles@poa.st @admin@detroitriotcity.com There are no "honest brokers" in this conflict because every belligerent has a very obvious motivation to lie. One of the best ways to examine these kinds of claims for credibility is to ask for specific details about an alleged event. Which ships? Which aircraft? Where did they launch from? Did they have the range to get there? What weapons were used? Can the ships/aircraft/weapons be employed in the manner in which they are alleged to have been? It's more work, but it is much better to examine claims than to take government propaganda announcements or Telegram rumors ("OSINT") at face value. This is especially important when the announcement aligns with one's own biases or desires.