@ismh I agree completely, but is that really the debate going on? Maybe it's a function of the crowd I run in, but I feel like it's really more “this base model plus a keyboard attachment is 30% more than a macbook air, why am I still unable to do these other things?” Being able to just run iphone/ipad apps on my mac now is great but I don't think they did themselves any favors in this skirmish with that capability either. Gruber compared it to bike/car but there's way less price overlap there